Comments on: CSR Bill C-300 – A Storm in the Tea Cup? http://prizmablog.com/2010/01/08/csr-bill-c-300-%e2%80%93-a-storm-in-the-tea-cup/ Making projects more bankable, credible & sustainable Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:31:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mehrdad Nazari http://prizmablog.com/2010/01/08/csr-bill-c-300-%e2%80%93-a-storm-in-the-tea-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-104 Mehrdad Nazari Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:25:17 +0000 http://prizmablog.com/?p=91#comment-104 Hi Anna, Thanks for taking the time to send a response to the previous commentator. Clearly, an emotive subject matter. Regards, Mehrdad Hi Anna, Thanks for taking the time to send a response to the previous commentator. Clearly, an emotive subject matter.
Regards, Mehrdad

]]> By: Anna Geringer http://prizmablog.com/2010/01/08/csr-bill-c-300-%e2%80%93-a-storm-in-the-tea-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-103 Anna Geringer Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:18:47 +0000 http://prizmablog.com/?p=91#comment-103 Who is this Fran Manns? I would never suggest that the reason you Fran might not care about the 5.5 million people who have died as a result of violence produced by resource-based conflict in the DRCongo is because you own a house, are employed and don't live in an urban centre. Why would you think that renters or urban tenancy constitute only 15% of our Canadian population or that these are indicators of a tendency to care about the human population outside of Canada or the global environment? I would suggest though that if you have money or investments that have grown or benefitted from Canadian mining abroad, or if you live in a non-urban 'bubble' where you never have to be exposed to the poverty that manifests in Canadian urban centres or have never traveled to a country where Canada mines to witness the violence that manifests in mining areas controlled by rebel groups (and contracted to do so by mining companies who are absent 'landords'; if you've never seen child soldiers who are initiated into violence by being forced to rape and/or kill family members, or children recruited to dig for coltan all day only to have it taken from them by warlords and rebels...then it could/might be because you have chosen to see through the world and its people through a lens that divides us into groups of deserving and undeserving; liberal and conservative, dumbed down and dumber. This is a kind of divisiveness in thinking that has led to the divisions of humanity that encourages violence and accepts that there are inferior and superior humans. Please reconsider your assumptions for the sake of all of the people of this world, for future generations who need clean water and trees for their survival and imagine that if you and the other 65% of the population ( I absolutely do not agree with your statistical claim for what percentage of the population cares and what percentage does not) would realize you're not 'different' or smarter, or better, or less liberal: you, like everyone on the planet, are all in this together and we'll all share the victories and the tragedies together, whether you accept or deny that. Denying reality does not change or eradicate that reality. By the way, Ignatief is not anti-mining or overly concerned about human rights violations committed by companies in the Congo. Watch Blood Diamonds. Watch Blood Coltan films and many others which document through drama and documentary approaches the impact of Canadian use of minerals mined in Africa. Google Michael looking for his position historically on mining industry activities and while you're at it, read about the number of Canada's prime ministers liberal and conservative who have been on the Boards of Directors for numerous Canadian mining companies operating overseas. You'll find there's no demarcation between liberals and conservatives, urbans or non-urbans, in terms of the degree to which they can allow greed and lust for power to dominate their personal and professional lives and careers. Time to broaden your horizons and expand your knowing. I don't know where you live, but you're definitely in the 'dark' on these issues and have succumbed to oversimplifying the factors that play out as they intersect. Good luck with becoming a human who has the capacity to contribute to a future for Canadians and all the 'OTHERS'. Big hug Who is this Fran Manns? I would never suggest that the reason you Fran might not care about the 5.5 million people who have died as a result of violence produced by resource-based conflict in the DRCongo is because you own a house, are employed and don’t live in an urban centre. Why would you think that renters or urban tenancy constitute only 15% of our Canadian population or that these are indicators of a tendency to care about the human population outside of Canada or the global environment? I would suggest though that if you have money or investments that have grown or benefitted from Canadian mining abroad, or if you live in a non-urban ‘bubble’ where you never have to be exposed to the poverty that manifests in Canadian urban centres or have never traveled to a country where Canada mines to witness the violence that manifests in mining areas controlled by rebel groups (and contracted to do so by mining companies who are absent ‘landords’; if you’ve never seen child soldiers who are initiated into violence by being forced to rape and/or kill family members, or children recruited to dig for coltan all day only to have it taken from them by warlords and rebels…then it could/might be because you have chosen to see through the world and its people through a lens that divides us into groups of deserving and undeserving; liberal and conservative, dumbed down and dumber. This is a kind of divisiveness in thinking that has led to the divisions of humanity that encourages violence and accepts that there are inferior and superior humans. Please reconsider your assumptions for the sake of all of the people of this world, for future generations who need clean water and trees for their survival and imagine that if you and the other 65% of the population ( I absolutely do not agree with your statistical claim for what percentage of the population cares and what percentage does not) would realize you’re not ‘different’ or smarter, or better, or less liberal: you, like everyone on the planet, are all in this together and we’ll all share the victories and the tragedies together, whether you accept or deny that. Denying reality does not change or eradicate that reality. By the way, Ignatief is not anti-mining or overly concerned about human rights violations committed by companies in the Congo. Watch Blood Diamonds. Watch Blood Coltan films and many others which document through drama and documentary approaches the impact of Canadian use of minerals mined in Africa. Google Michael looking for his position historically on mining industry activities and while you’re at it, read about the number of Canada’s prime ministers liberal and conservative who have been on the Boards of Directors for numerous Canadian mining companies operating overseas. You’ll find there’s no demarcation between liberals and conservatives, urbans or non-urbans, in terms of the degree to which they can allow greed and lust for power to dominate their personal and professional lives and careers.
Time to broaden your horizons and expand your knowing. I don’t know where you live, but you’re definitely in the ‘dark’ on these issues and have succumbed to oversimplifying the factors that play out as they intersect. Good luck with becoming a human who has the capacity to contribute to a future for Canadians and all the ‘OTHERS’.
Big hug

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]]> By: Fran Manns http://prizmablog.com/2010/01/08/csr-bill-c-300-%e2%80%93-a-storm-in-the-tea-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Fran Manns Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:38:45 +0000 http://prizmablog.com/?p=91#comment-14 McKay's bill C-300 is embarrassing Canada! Canadian companies have operated openly, morally, and diligently overseas for a century. Why is C-300 coming up now? The Liberal Party is desperate to link with environmental lobby groups on any and all issues and do not care who they hurt. The Liberals, like the ELGs, apparently hate the poor. Our extractive Companies work thousands of Company-years offshore and have a very positive impact in the developing world. Voters are watching what the Liberal party does, not what extractive industries do. This will embarrass Ignatief in the end. The assault on Canadian Mining Companies home and abroad is rooted in 15% of the Canadian population who have graduate degrees in Arts, rent their accommodations, consider themselves underemployed, and live in Canada's urban centres. They are assisted by ELGs funded through Ducks Unlimited by the Pew Charitable Trust of Philadelphia. NIMBY from rich developed world 'intellectuals' hurts the poor. McKay’s bill C-300 is embarrassing Canada!
Canadian companies have operated openly, morally, and diligently overseas for a century. Why is C-300 coming up now? The Liberal Party is desperate to link with environmental lobby groups on any and all issues and do not care who they hurt. The Liberals, like the ELGs, apparently hate the poor. Our extractive Companies work thousands of Company-years offshore and have a very positive impact in the developing world. Voters are watching what the Liberal party does, not what extractive industries do. This will embarrass Ignatief in the end.

The assault on Canadian Mining Companies home and abroad is rooted in 15% of the Canadian population who have graduate degrees in Arts, rent their accommodations, consider themselves underemployed, and live in Canada’s urban centres. They are assisted by ELGs funded through Ducks Unlimited by the Pew Charitable Trust of Philadelphia. NIMBY from rich developed world ‘intellectuals’ hurts the poor.

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